A gold pilgrim with staff, hat and satchel walks in the almond-shaped overlap of two interlocked rings, one gold and one lapis, each crowned with a fleur-de-lis, on a deep lapis ground: the sojourner on the road between two realms.

Between TwoRealms

A pilgrim's conversation on the road between two realms.

The podcast is on its way

About the show

A new podcast from the Sojourner Hall family, walking the threshold between this present age and the age to come: the seen and the unseen, the earthly city and the city that is to come, and the pilgrim road that runs between them.

The Christian lives as a stranger and sojourner: a citizen of the age to come making the long walk through this present one. Between Two Realms means to sit in that in-between, where the seen and the unseen meet, and to talk it over honestly, as pilgrims on the same road rather than settlers who have arrived.

The show has not launched yet. This page is the first stone laid; the conversations, the hosts and the shape of it are being drawn up now.

A hooded pilgrim with staff and pack stands on cracked ground before a radiant golden gateway, the wastes of this age opening onto a starlit dawn.

For Strangers And Sojourners Between This Age And The Age To Come.

Coming soon

The first episodes are being prepared. When the show goes live it will be here, and on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube and the rest. Until then, the door is ajar.

The devices of the road

The emblem, the title card and the marks that carry the brand, gathered for reference and reuse.

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